Eveline I took the liberty to rephrase your concept of how "adjust all subsequent lyric lines" might work:
- To change the vertical position of a lyric line, drag the yellow lyric line arrow. (already implemented)
- To change the vertical position of a lyric line, and simultaneously adjust all subsequent lyric lines, hold [Ctrl] key (windows) or [Command] key (Mac) and drag the yellow arrow. (proposed feature)
- To get that same spacing in all systems following the dragged object, hold [Ctrl] key (windows) or [Option] key (Mac) when dragging the object.
Denkster wrote:Hi AndrÃ©,
This is how it should work:
- To change spacing of an object (system, staff, lyric line, chord line) to the staff above it, drag the object by its handle.
- For lyric and chord lines, the yellow arrow is the handle.
- For staves and systems, the handles are the left and right barlines.
- To get that same spacing in all systems following the dragged object, hold [Ctrl] key (windows) or [Cmd] key (Mac) when dragging the object.
anaigeon wrote:Depends what you're meaning by "spacing", more precisely : spacing between which objects (staves, bottom of text, etc).
Because in a book I have about notation, they say that a current error consists in keeping the same spacing everywhere
(the ambitus of parts might here and there, make stems go outside a staff, etc - they advise to take this in account).
You are right!Andre wrote: it's not sufficient for a productive nice alignment.
When I have four staves per system, and three verses of lyrics, I need to adjust the placement of lyric lines twelve times... the increments are small and not so visible. And with a big zoom it's not better.
Yes, that will be the right goal. I understood Matt plans to implement 'style sheets'; IMHO that would be the only clever way to approach this matter.Andre wrote:I'm looking forward to the possibility to set score-wide distances to give easily a nice look, leaving us the ability to adjust manually (afterwards) the spacing of some extreme elements.
I made a mistake, I should have written [Option] instead of [Command], in describing current functionality. And indeed, in this case [Command] would have been better, because [Option]+drag always means 'copy'. Does nothing like this work on Mac?q wrote:Eveline, I noticed in your post that you wrote "[Command] key (Mac)." I think this is how it should be. Presently the [Option] key serves this function on the Mac ... but option dragging often implies copying, so I'd prefer any other modifier, and [Command] is not taken.
Doug Kerr wrote:There are more things to deal with in lyric lines what we deal with on staves!
No.Doug Kerr wrote:Do you mean changing it to not work that way?
Doug Kerr wrote: (proposed feature)
How would we arrange for the spacing between multiple lyric lines on one system to be equal (on one system)? How would we make the spacing between the lyric line on a system to be equal, on that system and on all later systems?
I listed the objects that IMHO should obey to this behavior rules in the first line: system, staff, lyric line, chord line.Doug Kerr wrote:What does objects mean?
No, I explicitly mentioned the handles for each object.Doug Kerr wrote:Do you mean grabbing them but not their arrows?
Denkster wrote:Actually, I was not aware of proposing things, just described what I think is implemented.
Denkster wrote:I listed the objects that IMHO should obey to this behavior rules in the first line: system, staff, lyric line, chord line.Doug Kerr wrote:What does objects mean?No, I explicitly mentioned the handles for each object.Doug Kerr wrote:Do you mean grabbing them but not their arrows?
- To change the vertical distance to its staff of one lyric line for one staff in one system:
- in the Graphic palette, click the Lyric tool L
The yellow lyric line arrow displays.
- Click in the staff of the system you need to change.
The yellow lyric line arrow is shown at that staff.
- Click on the yellow arrow's lyric line number box,
The lyric line number selection menu displays
- Select the number of the lyric line you need to change.
- Grab and drag the yellow lyric line arrow.
- in the Graphics palette...
- Click on a word of the lyric line you need to change
The yellow lyric line arrow is shown at that staff and shows the number of the selected lyric line
Doug Kerr wrote:The currently missing (and badly needed) ingredient in the present situation is the ability to, with one command, uniformly space the lyric lines under one system, or under all (probably meaning "all subsequent") systems.
That seems to be getting a little lost (and when it does appear, is often unclearly described) in the various elaborate discussions of gestures and results.
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